lukeprog comments on Great Explanations - Less Wrong

23 Post author: lukeprog 31 October 2011 11:58PM

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Comment author: lukeprog 01 November 2011 09:01:28PM *  14 points [-]

I will never get a ping time to American servers from my home here in Melbourne of less than the distance times two divided by c.

Funny you should mention that. I spent years working in IT, and this knowledge was actually useful once. I tried to ping a DNS router in Europe (I forget where) from California, and it came back in 1ms and I thought "Ummmmmm... no. You lie." It turned out one of the smart switches on the local network was fucked up and was somehow returning all pings itself.

Behold! Even a pop-sci understanding of physics controlled my anticipations in a way that was useful for accomplishing goals in the world.

Comment author: DSimon 02 November 2011 02:49:58PM *  5 points [-]

That is pretty awesome, but I also don't think it's necessary to think about light speed to solve that problem. Anyone who spends a lot of time debugging networking problems knows that 1ms is unreasonably fast for any communication with a machine more than a couple router hops away, even if it's physically nearby.

Comment author: Vladimir_M 03 November 2011 03:26:23AM *  6 points [-]

I see that this is getting upvoted, but your example sounds like someone who realizes that a device doesn't work because it's not plugged in, and then makes a self-satisfied comment that his knowledge of electromagnetic theory usefully controlled his anticipations in this situation.

In other words, it's about simple conventional nuts-and-bolts technical knowledge, not an improvement on such knowledge brought by more advanced understanding of anything. There's no way someone who works in network administration wouldn't know that a "<1ms" ping coming from around the world is anomalous.

Comment author: lukeprog 03 November 2011 07:11:54AM 2 points [-]

it's about simple conventional nuts-and-bolts technical knowledge, not an improvement on such knowledge brought by more advanced understanding of anything. There's no way someone who works in network administration wouldn't know that a "<1ms" ping coming from around the world is anomalous.

Actually, yes: I think this is correct.

But, I think I would have noticed something was wrong even if I hadn't worked in IT before. But I'm not certain of that.

Comment author: Solvent 05 November 2011 01:49:27AM 1 point [-]