EphemeralNight comments on Open thread, November 2011 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: EphemeralNight 03 November 2011 09:10:42PM 2 points [-]

I've noticed that I have developed a habit of playing dumb.

Let me explain. When someone says something that sounds stupid to me, I tend to ask the obvious question or pretend to be baffled as if I'd never heard of the issue before, rather than giving a lecture. I do this even when it is ridiculously improbable that I don't already know about and simply disagree with said issue. I'm non-confrontational by nature, which probably had something to do with slipping into this habit, but I also pride myself on being straightforward, so...

What I'm wondering, is it a good habit or a bad habit? How good or how bad? It is easier, but I can't tell if it is actually more effective than straightforward lecturing at prompting non-cached thoughts. Is it a habit I should make an effort to break?

Comment author: TheOtherDave 03 November 2011 10:52:02PM 2 points [-]

My $0.02: there's a gradient between listening charitably (e.g., assuming that your interlocutor probably meant something sensible, and therefore that the senseless thing you heard doesn't accurately reflect their meaning) on the one hand, prioritizing your time (e.g., disengaging from discussions that seem like a waste of time, either with silence or with cached politeness or whatever) on the other, and refusing to challenge error (e.g., pretending something is reasonable because pointing out the flaws with it feels rude) on a third.

Only the third of those seems like a problem to me.

Where you draw the threshold of too-much-in-that-third-bucket is a really up to you. You're under no ethical obligation to prompt non-cached thoughts from everyone who talks to you.

Comment author: Cthulhoo 04 November 2011 09:21:12AM 0 points [-]

I have developed a similar habit over time. I am often the "smart guy" in my social enviroment (I'm not particularly brilliant, but neither is my usual enviroment), and I can often identify major flaws in other people's reasoning. Despite this, I very rarely point them directly out. Social conventions usually state that this behaviour is considered unpolite, indirectly implying that the other person is dumb. It can be even worse if the other person is emotionally attached to the thought. So, unless I am discussing with a very close friend, I usually restrain from making meaningful comments.

Comment author: Oscar_Cunningham 03 November 2011 10:40:48PM 0 points [-]

This is connected with the first post in this thread. Conversation is easier when you take turns, setting up your partner to ask obvious questions.