Thomas comments on Criticisms of intelligence explosion - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Thomas 22 November 2011 09:50:19PM 1 point [-]

There are two kinds of people here. Those who thinks that an intelligence explosion is unlikely, and those who thinks it is uncontrollable.

I think it is likely AND controllable.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 22 November 2011 10:04:51PM 10 points [-]

From which we can infer that you aren't here.

Comment author: Thomas 23 November 2011 06:32:40AM 0 points [-]

Is here the fourth kind also? Those who thinks the IE is unlikely but controllable?

Comment author: TheOtherDave 23 November 2011 02:44:34PM 0 points [-]

I suspect that such people would not be terribly motivated to post about the IE in the first place, so available evidence is consistent with both their presence and their absence.

Comment author: Normal_Anomaly 23 November 2011 03:19:33PM 1 point [-]

But it's weak evidence of their absence, because them posting would be strong evidence of their presence.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 23 November 2011 03:55:17PM 0 points [-]

(nods) Certainly. But weak enough to be negligible compared to most people's likely priors.

I sometimes feel like we should simply have a macro that expands to this comment, its parent, and its grandparent.

Comment author: Normal_Anomaly 24 November 2011 12:35:54AM *  0 points [-]

I sometimes feel like we should simply have a macro that expands to this comment, its parent, and its grandparent.

I'm not sure what you mean here. Is it something like,

There should be some piece of LW jargon encapsulating the idea that "the evidence is consistent with X and ~X, but favors X very weakly because absence of evidence is evidence of absence."

?

The closest thing we currently have is linking to the Absence of Evidence post.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 24 November 2011 01:26:12AM 0 points [-]

Something like, but more "the evidence is consistent with X and ~X, but favors X very weakly (because absence of evidence is evidence of absence), but sufficiently weakly that the posterior probability of X is roughly equal to the prior probability of X."

But I was mostly joking.

Comment author: amcknight 27 November 2011 08:09:04AM 0 points [-]

I think it's likely, controllable, but unlikely to be controlled. That means I'm in your faction and I would bet we're in the largest one.

Comment author: Thomas 27 November 2011 08:55:11AM 0 points [-]

You are right. An additional bit is needed for this description. How likely is that it will be controlled? Agree, not that likelly.