cousin_it comments on Newcomb's Problem standard positions - Less Wrong

5 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 06 April 2009 05:05PM

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Comment author: cousin_it 06 April 2009 09:48:33PM *  3 points [-]

Uh, Omega has no business deciding what problem I'm solving.

Could you point me to your preferred writeup of the Unexpected Hanging Paradox?

The solution I consider definitively correct is outlined on the Wikipedia page, but simple enough to be expressed here. The judge actually says "you can't deduce the day you'll be hanged, even if you use this statement as an axiom too". This phrase is self-referential, like the phrase "this statement is false". Although not all self-referential statements are self-contradictory, this one turns out to be. The proof of self-contradiction simply follows the prisoner's reasoning. This line of attack seems to have been first rigorously formalized by Fitch, "A Goedelized formulation of the prediction paradox", can't find the full text online. And that's all there is to it.

Comment author: dclayh 06 April 2009 10:09:13PM *  1 point [-]

Uh, Omega has no business deciding what problem I'm solving.

No, but if you're solving something other than Newcomb's problem, why discuss it on this post?

Comment author: cousin_it 06 April 2009 10:18:12PM *  2 points [-]

I'm not solving it in the sense of utility maximization. I'm solving it in the sense of demonstrating that the input conditions might well be self-contradictory, using any means available.

Comment author: dclayh 06 April 2009 10:41:50PM 1 point [-]

Okay yes, I see what you're trying to do and the comment is retracted.