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Comment author: [deleted] 30 December 2011 08:11:32PM *  11 points [-]

Hello LW community, my name is Karl, but please call me MHD for short; here's a lot of sentences beginning with "I..." :

I am a 19 year old, slightly gifted individual, male of gender and psyche, bi, hard to define my preferred relationship structure; honestly my gonads and sexual preference are mostly irrelevant here.

I came here by way of HPMoR and was pressed to do some serious reading by my good friend, known around here as Armok_GoB.

I have at time of writing read sequences MaT and MAtMQ along with some non-structured link-walking, looking to read Reductionism next. My attitude is so far positive, but I read it with a healthy dose of sceptic afterthought and note-taking to verify that it really does make sense. You see, my native language is not English, and I have read a study that one is more gullible when communicating in a non-native language.

My mind is built for logical thinking and I have a knack for mathematics, physics and language. I know approx. 12 turing complete programming languages (C likes, LISPs, ML family, SmallTalk-esque, Assembly) reasonably well. I am looking into Tensors, Bayesian probability, formal logic, type theory, quantum physics, relativity, human psychology, Lojban and some other stuff.

Armok tells me that I am very susceptible to basilisk material; I one-box (eff me! bad error to switch those around, sorry), and I tend to fall for the Planning Fallacy and the Transparency-thingey. I am probably genetically predisposed to mild mental illness and I know from personal experience how bad a Death Spiral can really get.

I am a devoted materialist, I hate not understanding things (or at least knowing how to learn how it works), but I tend not to go into too much depth with everything; I know a bit of many topics.

I am not a fan of cryonics because I know that freezing, regardless of method, is a very good way to destroy tissue; and I would like to see some more evidence towards what actually constitutes memory and other brain-related stuff, so as to make sure the freezing method doesn't wreck it, before I buy into it.

I do some creative writing and I like sci-fi. I lack time to read as well as a book budget, another point which Armok has called me out on.

I think that's about what's relevant. Happy New Year LW!

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 30 December 2011 10:55:55PM 19 points [-]

I am not a fan of cryonics because I know that freezing, regardless of method, is a very good way to destroy tissue

Cryonics uses vitrification, which protects from the tissue-destroying crystal formation.
http://www.alcor.org/Library/html/vitrification.html

Comment author: Vaniver 30 December 2011 11:28:25PM 4 points [-]

Welcome!

You see, my native language is not English, and I have read a study that one is more gullible when communicating in a non-native language

Was the study in a non-native language? ;)

Comment author: [deleted] 31 December 2011 02:02:09AM 1 point [-]

I actually don't remember; let me consult my sources for a spell.

Comment author: marchdown 06 January 2012 02:17:01AM 2 points [-]

That study sounds interesting, could you post a link if you happen to find it?

Comment author: wedrifid 31 December 2011 12:11:39AM *  6 points [-]

I am not a fan of cryonics because I know that freezing, regardless of method, is a very good way to destroy tissue; and I would like to see some more evidence towards what actually constitutes memory and other brain-related stuff, so as to make sure the freezing method doesn't wreck it, before I buy into it.

Oh oh. That argument was just removed. Now what are you going to do? You can make up a new one to support your existing conclusion or you could make up a new conclusion based on what you know.

Welcome to lesswrong.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 31 December 2011 12:42:32AM 8 points [-]

This seems needlessly confrontational, especially as a comment to a newcomer.

Comment author: wedrifid 31 December 2011 01:45:40AM 2 points [-]

This seems needlessly confrontational, especially as a comment to a newcomer.

That would seem to be in the eye of the beholder. I saw it as an opportunity to demonstrate mastery of the most basic principle of lesswrong and instantly raise his standing in the tribe and reputation for sanity.

I reject your accusation!

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 31 December 2011 06:34:21AM 3 points [-]

My apologies for the misinterpretation, then.

Comment author: [deleted] 31 December 2011 01:46:32AM *  4 points [-]

All right, I'll play ball. If my devoting my career to AI research fails to make FAI, sure, I'll buy into cryonics.

Right now I am 19 years old, poor as dirt, lives with my parents, healthy lifestyle, careful to the point of paranoia; show me a cryonics establishment in Denmark and I will reserve a space when I have the funding. (the "show me" is a rethoric, I intend to find out myself)

I am generally optimistic with regards to FAI, and I am no strong Bayesian at all. You have a point, yeah, plain as day.

And thank you Kaj_Sotala, for taking up on this, frankly not at all "fun" or "inviting" and, yes, frankly quite "needlessly confrontational," yet still true counterargument.

wedrifid; there is a time to be direct and insulting in a playful kind of way. You need to learn when that time is.

ETA: After a brief lookup of the term "Vitrification" i find the term "Toxicity" to feature, along with "Optimistic of the future." I am not sure what to think here, compelling arguments can be made for each.

Comment author: wedrifid 31 December 2011 01:49:13AM 0 points [-]

frankly quite "needlessly confrontational," yet still true counterargument.

I didn't make a counterargument of any kind.

Comment author: [deleted] 31 December 2011 01:59:12AM *  12 points [-]

Sorry, you pointed out a counterargument made by Vladimir_Nesov, in a confrontational manner.

Also, thank your for reminding me that I have to sharpen my posting abilities.

Vladimir Nesov made a very true counterargument, you endorsed it to test my ability to change my standpoint. Nothing wrong with that; and lo and behold, I actually have. Congratulations, you and Vladimir_Nesov both get an upvote from the new guy.

Comment author: wedrifid 31 December 2011 02:33:07AM 6 points [-]

Congratulations, you and Vladimir_Nesov both get an upvote from the new guy.

Thankyou! Respond positively and thinking clearly despite (being primed to) consider an interaction to be a confrontation is potentially even more valuable trait to signal than ability to update freely. A valuable newcomer indeed!

Comment author: [deleted] 02 January 2012 02:39:19PM *  1 point [-]

ETA: After a brief lookup of the term "Vitrification" i find the term "Toxicity" to feature, along with "Optimistic of the future." I am not sure what to think here, compelling arguments can be made for each.

The toxicity isn't a problem if it's going to be a brain upload, but it is a valid concern for any attempt at resurrecting the wetware.

Comment author: jsteinhardt 31 December 2011 12:32:30AM 1 point [-]

My attitude is so far positive, but I read it with a healthy dose of sceptic afterthought and note-taking to verify that it really does make sense. You see, my native language is not English, and I have read a study that one is more gullible when communicating in a non-native language.

Kudos for that. Sceptic afterthought is always good if you have the time to devote to it.

Comment author: windmil 02 January 2012 01:41:00AM 0 points [-]

.ui lo du'u do cu se cinri la lojban. cu pluka mi

It's nice to see someone else interested in lojban.

Comment author: [deleted] 02 January 2012 01:57:40AM 2 points [-]

.uiru'e .i'i

Comment author: Michelle_Z 03 January 2012 04:56:19AM 1 point [-]

I've recently started trying to learn a bit about lojban.

.ui