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Comment author: Multiheaded 02 January 2012 10:51:23AM 0 points [-]

In some respects modern society is closer in norms to societies that practised infanticide 100 years ago than to Western society of 100 years ago

Doesn't look that way to me at all, and never did. For every example you list (polyamory, etc) I bet I can find you a counterexample of equivalent strength.

Comment author: [deleted] 02 January 2012 10:57:48AM *  1 point [-]

For every example you list (polyamory, etc)

I think you mean "for every example you are likley to list", I didn't list any.

I bet I can find you a counterexample of equivalent strength.

What exactly would that accomplish? I said more similar in some respects, didn't I? I didn't say on net or overall.

Comment author: Multiheaded 02 January 2012 11:02:51AM 0 points [-]

I think you mean "for every example you are likley to list", I didn't list any.

Yup.

I didn't say on net or overall.

That's the rub. I repeat my claim: the culture you want is, on net or overall, closer to our society than to societies that are OK with infanticide. It's evidence against your extrapolated-volition utopia being OK with infanticide. (unless I have absolutely zero understanding of Bayes)

Comment author: [deleted] 02 January 2012 11:05:30AM *  0 points [-]

sigh

That's the rub. I repeat my claim: the culture you want is, on net or overall, closer to our society than to societies that are OK with infanticide. It's evidence against your extrapolated-volition utopia being OK with infanticide. (unless I have absolutely zero understanding of Bayes)

Look two comments up.

It is certainly weak evidence in favour of a practice being nasty that societies which practice it are generally nasty in other ways. But it is just that, weak evidence.

Comment author: CharlieSheen 02 January 2012 11:12:58AM 0 points [-]

That's the rub. I repeat my claim: the culture you want is, on net or overall, closer to our society than to societies that are OK with infanticide. It's evidence against your extrapolated-volition utopia being OK with infanticide. (unless I have absolutely zero understanding of Bayes)

Tsk tsk tsk, not very multicultural of you.

Comment author: [deleted] 02 January 2012 10:58:17AM *  0 points [-]

Please please just for a second try to look at your own society as the alien one for the purposes of analysis, to ascertain is rather than should when it comes to such questions. I find this has helped me more than anything else in thinking about social questions and avoiding political thinking.

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