_ozymandias comments on New Year's Prediction Thread (2012) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: _ozymandias 03 January 2012 06:01:22AM 0 points [-]

I was thinking roughly Matrix 2 level backlash: a significant group of "ruined FOREVER" fans, but the movie does not become a byword for terribleness now and forever like Episode 1. Possibly this could be measured by the number of negative YMMV tropes on its TVTropes page?

Fan backlash is remarkably difficult to operationalize.

Comment author: Nornagest 03 January 2012 06:51:25AM *  2 points [-]

Don't think that'd work; TV Tropes isn't very representative of fandom as a whole, and in any case popular works will attract more negative tropes than obscure ones simply as a function of having more eyes on the page and more fingers on keyboards. On the other hand, if the page gets locked for bickering, that's probably a good (if binary) indicator of backlash.

If you asked me to come up with a more general metric of fannish approval, I might look at ratios of fanworks to mainstream sales; that's pretty hard in itself, though, since different fandoms congregate in different places. You'll find a lot more Naruto fanart on DeviantArt than Sherlock Holmes.

Comment author: MugaSofer 15 December 2012 07:44:34PM *  0 points [-]

You sure Matrix 2 isn't "a byword for terribleness now and forever like Episode 1"? I wasn't really around for either of them, but the reaction people have seems about the same for both.

EDIT: Although I may be confusing backlash against the Matrix sequels for backlash against "Matrix 2". Was that lower?