loup-vaillant comments on [META] 'Rational' vs 'Optimized' - Less Wrong

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Comment author: loup-vaillant 05 January 2012 03:27:58PM *  0 points [-]

The jump is easy only if you happen to take ideas seriously. People compartmentalize by default, so they shouldn't have much trouble "trusting" a decision procedure while at the same time finding excuses for why it wouldn't work for them in a particular case.

If you do take ideas seriously, it will be harder to make you accept a shaky decision procedure at all: you would find too many examples in your own life where following it wouldn't have worked.

Comment author: fortyeridania 06 January 2012 02:26:34AM 0 points [-]

This all sounds plausible, but I'd like an example.

It's funny, though: Here we are disputing (abtractly) whether abstract or object-level discourse is more pliable to the pens of deceivers, and I'm insisting on a more object-level discussion. Ha.