prase comments on [META] 'Rational' vs 'Optimized' - Less Wrong

30 Post author: TheOtherDave 04 January 2012 06:58PM

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Comment author: prase 05 January 2012 03:40:00PM *  0 points [-]

Perhaps the optimal way to find out is cutting them open, too. At least if you optimise for certainty of the answer and ignore the side-effects as arrests, ethics and disgust. People can have silly preconceptions of rationality, people can have silly preconceptions of optimality as well (or perhaps propensity to argue about silly things in general).

Comment author: ahartell 05 January 2012 09:52:11PM 0 points [-]

It might be the best way to find out the answer, but would you really argue that it would be a rational or optimal decision in real life?

Comment author: prase 05 January 2012 11:41:54PM 0 points [-]

I wouldn't, of course.

Comment author: ahartell 06 January 2012 05:07:27AM 0 points [-]

I granted him that it might make sense it the world somehow depended on it of it there were other crazy circumstances, but he was arguing that a more-rational-me would cut the person open, and I was saying that a more-rational-me would probably just ask.

Comment author: prase 06 January 2012 11:30:06AM 0 points [-]

Did he give any explanation why such a silly thing would be rational? Does he exhibit similar weird interpretations of "rationality" or other words on other occasions, or was his insistence only a result of his inability to change mind, even if it means insisting on clearly unreasonable random guesses?

Comment author: ahartell 06 January 2012 08:04:07PM 0 points [-]

His definition of rational was something like "getting to the truth with highest possible accuracy" but may have even been "getting to the truth 100% of the time".