scientism comments on The Dark Arts: A Beginner's Guide - Less Wrong

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Comment author: scientism 21 January 2012 06:00:48PM 7 points [-]

The alternative isn't to not seem like them, the alternative is to not seem like anything. All of the examples are insincere, primarily because they're premeditated. To the degree that insincerity is unethical, they are also unethical.

Comment author: Nick_Tarleton 22 January 2012 09:30:51AM 0 points [-]

All of the examples are insincere, primarily because they're premeditated.

Including "be simple"?

Comment author: atucker 22 January 2012 05:06:22PM *  0 points [-]

I think people put waaaay too much weight on the idea that people have and express intrinsic properties.

Sincerity in the way that you seem to be mentioning it (avoiding intentionally changing your behavior to achieve a particular goal) does not seem to me to be a priori good.

If that's the way you're using the word, then being considerate is being insincere, since the person decides to be considerate.

Comment author: scientism 22 January 2012 11:40:31PM 0 points [-]

I don't think insincerity is as simple as that. It involves a value-judgement in itself. A simple way to look at it is, what if you were asked to explain what you're doing? What if you take somebody for a walk to increase their cognitive load or use a particular rhetorical tactic and get called on it? Could you give a reason, without lying, that the person would find acceptable?