thakil comments on Diseased disciplines: the strange case of the inverted chart - Less Wrong

47 Post author: Morendil 07 February 2012 09:45AM

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Comment author: thakil 06 February 2012 10:20:35AM *  3 points [-]

I see that you have a book about this, but if this error is egregious enough, why not submit papers to that effect? Surely one can only demonstrate that Software Engineering is diseased is if, once the community have read your claims, they refuse to react?

Comment author: Morendil 06 February 2012 05:33:18PM 6 points [-]

You don't call a person diseased because they fail to respond to a cure: you call them diseased because they show certain symptoms.

This disease is widespread in the community, and has even been shown to cross the layman-scientist barrier.

Comment author: thakil 06 February 2012 06:35:53PM 2 points [-]

Fair point, but I feel like you've dodged the substance of my post. Why have you chosen to not submit a paper on this subject so that the community's mind can be changed (assuming you have/are not).

Comment author: Morendil 06 February 2012 06:46:18PM 12 points [-]

What makes you think I haven't?

As far as "official" academic publishing is concerned, I've been in touch with the editors of IEEE Software's "Voice of Evidence" column for about a year now, though on an earlier topic - the so-called "10x programmers" studies. The response was positive - i.e. "yes, we're interested in publishing this". So far, however, we haven't managed to hash out a publication schedule.

You've said so yourself, I'm making these observations publicly - though on a self-published basis as far as the book is concerned. I'm not sure what more would be accomplished by submitting a publication - but I'm certainly not opposed to that.

It's a lot more difficult, as has been noted previously on Less Wrong, to publish "negative" results in academic fora than to publish "positive" ones - one of the failures of science-in-general, not unique to software engineering.

Comment author: thakil 06 February 2012 06:52:23PM 4 points [-]

Then any objection withdrawn!

Comment author: asr 08 February 2012 04:47:13AM 0 points [-]

I commend you for pushing this, and Software is a decently high-impact venue.

Comment author: pedanterrific 06 February 2012 09:12:33PM 1 point [-]

Um. It might have been intentional, in which case disregard this, but Unfortunate Implication warning: laymen have brains too.