Wei_Dai comments on Heuristics and Biases in Charity - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Wei_Dai 07 March 2012 08:48:10PM *  1 point [-]

I guess you're right, the Parliamentary Model seems a better model for moral conflict than moral uncertainty. It doesn't affect my original point too much (that it's not necessarily irrational to diversify charitable giving), since we do have moral conflict as well as moral uncertainty, but we should probably keep thinking about how to deal with moral uncertainty.

Comment author: steven0461 07 March 2012 09:40:12PM *  5 points [-]

I think if you apply this reasoning to moral conflict between different kinds of altruism, it becomes a restatement of "purchase fuzzies and utilons separately", except with more idealized assumptions about partial selves as rational strategists. It seems to me that if I'm the self that wants utilons, then "purchase fuzzies and utilons separately" is a more realistic strategy for me to use in that it gives up only what is needed to placate the other selves, rather than what the other selves could bargain for if they too were rational agents. With parliament-like approaches to moral conflict it sometimes feels to me as though I'm stuck in a room with a rabid gorilla and I'm advised to turn into half a gorilla to make the room's output more agenty, when what is really needed is some relatively small amount of gorilla food, or maybe a tranquilizer gun.

Comment author: Wei_Dai 07 March 2012 10:06:52PM 2 points [-]

You may not be a typical person. Consider instead someone who's conflicted between egotism, utilitarianism, and deontology, and these moralities get more or less influence from moment to moment in a chaotic manner but has a sort of long term power balance. The Parliamentary Model could be a way for the person to coordinate actions so that he doesn't work against himself.