Asymmetric comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 11 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Asymmetric 18 March 2012 10:18:48PM 4 points [-]

This thought just occurred to me: would Harry think to check the phoenix's price chamber for a picture of Narcissa Malfoy? If it is not there, how strong is it as evidence against Dumbledore immolating her?

Comment author: Anubhav 19 March 2012 07:07:29AM 7 points [-]

"These are not all the fallen of all my wars," Albus Dumbledore said. His back was to Harry, only his grey locks and yellowish robes showed. "Not even nearly all of them. Only my closest friends, and those who died of my worst decisions, there is something of them here. Those I regret most of all, this is their place."

In other words, it's weak enough to disregard completely.

Comment author: AspiringKnitter 19 March 2012 03:43:02AM *  4 points [-]

Not very. Maybe he only has shrines to his fallen allies. If there are memorials of other fallen enemies/neutrals, then it would be evidence, but I'm not sure how strong it would be...

Plus, if she was an innocent who died because of an accident that was his fault, a memorial would be more likely than if he had nothing to do with it, so...

Comment author: Jello_Raptor 19 March 2012 07:59:36AM 1 point [-]

On the other hand, if it is there (a highly unlikely situation) it would be immense evidence that it wasn't Dumbledore, or at the very least that it was an accident of some sort.

But this is mostly useless speculation given what we know.

Comment author: hairyfigment 22 March 2012 08:13:01PM 2 points [-]

I was thinking the exact opposite. If he enshrines "my closest friends, and those who died of my worst decisions," then someone he burned to death seems more likely to fit in the latter category than someone who died for other reasons. If, say, Voldemort killed Narcissa to manipulate Lucius and/or to amuse himself, then I'd expect Dumbledore to regret this death but not to rank it among those he regrets "most of all".

I did neglect the possibility that she was working for Dumbledore somehow. I probably shouldn't, since that would increase the probability of Mor!Voldemort killing her in this way.