wedrifid comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 11 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 23 March 2012 04:33:18PM 3 points [-]

How much respect to the Dementors have for Harry at this point? Now that they know he can kill them and all. And how intelligent are they?

What it'd be really fun (ie. a desirable yet not likely outcome) is for Harry to make a deal with the Dementors. They will give Hermione VIP treatment in Azkhaban and minimize the damage to her in the interim until Harry can free her. In exchange Harry will give the Dementors the souls of all of Wizarding Britain's government and all the aurors. And, naturally, be granted their ongoing existence. He is clearly the greatest threat to them, has the obvious potential to do unheard of things and, most importantly, doing what they can to minimize damage to Hermione costs them almost nothing.

Comment author: DanArmak 23 March 2012 05:34:36PM 3 points [-]

And this is another reason why Harry should not tell just anyone about the True Patronus - it would drastically dilute his authority over the Dementors and his ability to broker a unilateral deal superceding the one they've got with the Ministry.

In exchange Harry will give the Dementors the souls of all of Wizarding Britain's government and all the aurors.

Playing on the fact that Harry doesn't believe in souls while most wizards and presumably the dementors do.

Comment author: wedrifid 23 March 2012 05:46:40PM 3 points [-]

And this is another reason why Harry should not tell just anyone about the True Patronus - it would drastically dilute his authority over the Dementors and his ability to broker a unilateral deal superceding the one they've got with the Ministry.

Definitely. Don't tell enemies about your strengths unless you are positioning yourself to be intimidating. (Even then it is better to have the enemies believing you have strengths that you don't have while still being unaware of your actual strengths.)

Playing on the fact that Harry doesn't believe in souls while most wizards and presumably the dementors do.

Well, failing that it comes down to the real fact that the dementors do assign value to doing a kissy-suck thing to humans that effectively destroys the human.

Comment author: Alex_Altair 24 March 2012 12:18:23PM 1 point [-]

Does death fear death?

Comment author: wedrifid 24 March 2012 01:09:17PM 7 points [-]

Does death fear death?

I don't know. Does death float around in cloaks sucking misty stuff out of victims, communicating and making decisions?

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 24 March 2012 12:54:58PM 7 points [-]

If death dies, there will be no more death, and death doesn't want that to happen, so it doesn't take the pill.

Comment author: RolfAndreassen 24 March 2012 10:28:08PM 0 points [-]

Yes. The Dementors in Azkaban flee from Harry's bluff, when he is constrained from casting the True Patronus.