Alsadius comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 11 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Alsadius 23 March 2012 09:34:17PM 5 points [-]

I find it fascinating that nobody has yet considered the thought that Hermione may actually be guilty. Neither Harry nor anybody here seems to have noticed that confession(under truth serum!) is generally considered very strong evidence of guilt, certainly much more so than an appeal to demographics is evidence of innocence.

Comment author: Xachariah 23 March 2012 10:04:35PM *  8 points [-]

We know that she is innocent because we saw her being effected by a mind effecting attack. It's like watching an episode of Supernatural, seeing a ghost kill somebody on screen, then saying "well maybe it was a regular homicide!"

We as readers are privy to knowledge that people in universe are not. This is why they entertain the notion that she's guilty and we don't. Harry doesn't entertain the notion because she's his best friends and twelve year old girls do not attempt cold blooded murder of their own volition.

Comment author: Alsadius 23 March 2012 11:22:47PM 6 points [-]

I'm aware that it's a very unlikely case from the reader's perspective - it's possible that they just warped her mind until she did it of her own accord, but that's about it. However, we're openly considering even more ridiculous possibilities(confess to the Azkaban breakout? Wut?), so the fact that it hasn't come up is odd.

My point is as much about the in-universe response as the reader's, though. Harry is acting in blatantly irrational fashion, and everybody else seems to be humouring him much more than usual as well. I find that strange.

Comment author: Anubhav 24 March 2012 01:35:17PM 3 points [-]

However, we're openly considering even more ridiculous possibilities(confess to the Azkaban breakout? Wut?), so the fact that it hasn't come up is odd.

To be honest, I still think this is a better solution than most of the stuff that's been suggested on this thread so far.

Comment author: Sheaman3773 23 June 2012 04:11:39PM 1 point [-]

I got the impression that they weren't humoring him so much as even Snape thought that the very idea of Hermione deliberately trying to murder someone was preposterous.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 24 March 2012 07:26:43AM 2 points [-]

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one bothered by this.