Pringlescan comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 12 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Pringlescan 27 March 2012 09:30:48PM 0 points [-]

Perhaps I should have said 90% that my plan is the plan or superior to whatever Harry comes up with.

Yup that's what I should have said alright.

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 27 March 2012 09:39:41PM *  3 points [-]

Perhaps I should have said 90% that my plan is the plan or superior to whatever Harry comes up with.

I'm 95% sure you will find your plan superior to whatever Harry comes up with.
I'm 99% sure I won't. And that neither will Eliezer.

Comment author: faul_sname 28 March 2012 01:39:38AM 1 point [-]

I'm 99% sure I won't. And that neither will Eliezer.

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Has it occurred to you that if you're really that confident you could be making money on bets?

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 28 March 2012 07:31:30AM 1 point [-]

Has it occurred to you that if you're really that confident you could be making money on bets

It occurred to me that I might be making money from Pringlescan on this issue, if I was willing to bet with him, and if he was willing to bet with me. But I don't even know whether he's a legal adult -- and either way he was too obviously biased in favour of his idea. I arrived at the same conclusion as pedanterrific that it might be unethical to bet with him.

Comment author: Asymmetric 28 March 2012 03:21:17AM *  1 point [-]

i'm not sure if this is the prediction you are referring to, but he did make and win a bet on the last page.

Comment author: Normal_Anomaly 28 March 2012 12:49:51PM 0 points [-]

That particular bet would be hard to settle, because who wins depends on the bettors' beliefs.

Comment author: FAWS 28 March 2012 01:52:42AM *  0 points [-]

Assigning a high probability to a complicated hypothesis and assigning a high probability to the negation of a complicated hypothesis are two very different things. I'm more than 99% sure that my neighbor is not a bank robber, even though I don't know all that much about him and would consider a 90% certainty that he was a bank robber with comparable information massively overconfident (the example isn't supposed to be an exact equivalent, just to illustrate the general principle, and I don't necessarily share ArisKatsaris' specific positions).

Comment author: faul_sname 28 March 2012 02:04:59AM 0 points [-]

The hypothesis he's negating with 99% probability is pretty simple though: he will find Pringles' story better or Eliezer will. Which is a disjunction, not a conjunction.

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 28 March 2012 07:25:05AM 1 point [-]

I already knew Pringlescan's idea and I was sufficiently aware of Eliezer's level of writing skill. My estimate on the probability didn't originate primarily from the complexity of Pringlescan's idea, but from the related fact that its complexity would make it a bad idea for Harry to have or for Eliezer to write.