bogdanb comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 12 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: bogdanb 27 March 2012 10:26:01PM *  1 point [-]

Hmm. It was foreshadowed that Harry might frame Jugson if the latter pokes him. And Jugson did come up a lot in the later chapters. I think it was Jugson that cried for Azkaban first, which could be taken as poking. “Jugson did it because Hermione bested his son, and wants to ‘replace’ Malfloy (Jugson’s is an ancient family)” sounds like something one might convince Lucius of, or at least make him highly suspicious. Sending Hermione to Azkaban would be convenient in the scenario, getting rid of a possible clue. Though if it was Jugson that asked for Azkaban, it might have been at Lucius’ bidding.

You’re right, of course, all the details make it seem likely, but there are in this thread lots of details for other conflicting possibilities, and I can’t quite see how Harry might actually do it. (All theories I’ve read don’t seem to actually work IMO.)

And I interpret Eliezer’s words as if we should be able to find at least Harry’s solution, and that the latter will work at least partially.

Comment author: lavalamp 27 March 2012 10:41:17PM 0 points [-]

But Harry's not aware that Jugson was watching in chapter 78.

I think it was Jugson that cried for Azkaban first, which could be taken as poking.

Good point, he's described as having a scar in 78 as does the man who does the shouting in 80. However, Harry wouldn't be able to identify him (unless he looks sufficiently like his son).

But given that, I'll now agree that if Harry identifies Jugson, he might think of attempting a frame.