Cyan comments on Rationality Quotes April 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Cyan 05 April 2012 03:24:58AM 3 points [-]

choosing a Schelling point

Aren't you choosing an anti-Schelling point? It seems to me that people avoid playing low Kolmogorov-complexity lottery numbers because of a sense that they're not random enough -- exactly the fallacious intuition that prompts the shocked faces you enjoy.

Comment author: orthonormal 05 April 2012 04:31:59AM 8 points [-]

Choosing something that's "too obvious" out of a large search space can work if you're playing against a small number of competitors, but when there are millions of people involved, not only are some of them going to un-ironically choose "1-2-3-4-5-6", but more than one person will choose it for the same reason it appeals to you.

Comment author: Cyan 05 April 2012 05:45:36AM 0 points [-]

Thank you for that insightful observation.

Just to follow up, army1987's actual choice is:

I always choose combinations like 1-2-3-4-5-6

So whether this choice is Schelling or anti-Schelling depends on reference sets that are quite fuzzy on the specified information, to wit, the set of non-random-seeming selections and (the proportion of players in) the set of people who play them.

Comment author: [deleted] 05 April 2012 10:16:59AM *  5 points [-]

I still think many more people pick any given low Kolmogorov-complexity combination than any given high Kolmogorov-complexity combination, if anything because there are fewer of the former. If 0.1% of the people picked 01-02-03-04-05 / 06 and 99.9% of the people picked a combination from http://www.random.org/quick-pick/ (and discarded it should it look ‘not random enough’), there'd still be 175 thousand times as many people picking 01-02-03-04-05 / 06 as 33-39-50-54-58 / 23. (Likewise, the fact that the most common password is password doesn't necessarily mean that there are lots of idiots: it could mean that 0.01% of the people pick it and 99.99% pick one of more than 9,999 more complicated passwords. Not that I'm actually that optimistic.)