Mercurial comments on SotW: Avoid Motivated Cognition - Less Wrong

20 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 28 May 2012 03:57PM

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Comment author: JGWeissman 25 May 2012 06:34:20PM 2 points [-]

Val also used an upside-down W-diagram with the two worlds at the top and the four beliefs at the bottom, to emphasize the idea that the world is there first, and is fixed, and we have only a choice of what to believe within a fixed world, not a choice of which background world to live in.

I don't know what a "W-diagram" is (and a simple Google search didn't help), so I don't see how this works. Perhaps a picture could help explain.

Comment author: Mercurial 26 May 2012 10:45:42PM 1 point [-]

To clarify, I actually think of it with two upside-down 'V' shapes. I imagine one off to my left in the world where X is true and observe the two possible outcomes based on what I believe is true in that world, and then I look off to my right to see the upside-down 'V' in the world where X is not true and consider the alternatives.

I should also add that I have to put all four representations in near-mode. I view this whole process as a way of getting my brain to emotionally get that yes, it's better to have true beliefs even if they describe a world I'd rather not be in.

(To clarify, in case this isn't obvious: I'm Valentine.)

Comment author: Alicorn 26 May 2012 10:52:53PM 4 points [-]

I think you should just register the username "Valentine" and use it, now before you acquire more comment history under this name.

Comment author: Valentine 26 May 2012 11:04:44PM 17 points [-]

Point taken. Done.

(I had been quietly hoping to see if it's possible to change my account name from "Mercurial" to "Valentine," but I planned on doing this in the ephemeral land of "later." This just works. Thanks for pointing that out!)

Comment author: Kevin 28 May 2012 12:45:37AM 1 point [-]

Pretty sure that the software doesn't allow for name changes, but an admin can give you karma to a new account if you really want it.

Comment author: Valentine 28 May 2012 10:02:31PM 5 points [-]

I don't think I care that much about karma except for the "can post articles" limit, and that doesn't seem too difficult to reach.