The general scenario plays out rather frequently and the game-theoretic incentives are of interest to me (far more so than the specifics of to just what degree Wei_Dai should be honored as a universal role model.) Let me see if I can explain clearly, at least for the specific variant encountered a couple of ancestors up.
Background preferences:
With that in mind consider my incentives at this point:
I'm afraid you're either having an illusion of transparency (i.e., the thing you believe to be obvious is entirely unclear to others), or perhaps just making up excuses to avoid admitting an error.
I hope the above gives you an alternative understanding to 'transparency' issues. I further hope you understand that if you had not at least couched the latter option with at least a somewhat less dire dichotomous option as the alternative that I would have taken a rather significant degree of offense, in accordance to the social implications of underlying the move.
Or are you objecting to the fact that I used the word "deserve" while asking for such an example, and "detrimental" refers to the possibility of encouraging such thinking and/or language in the future?
This applies to a certain extent. The 'deserve' claim applied to the desire of someone to that another voluntarily does something that amounts to self-sabotage requires a high degree of endorsement before I will refrain from expressing an objection to it - regardless of whether it is directed at myself.
But I only used the word after you refused my first request for an example. Why did you refuse that one?
I gave you an answer, when I had the option of simply ignoring your comment. It consisted of giving the clear option to dismiss my objection to David_Gerard as merely different subjective preferences about how people should interact socially while giving a clear social cue that I didn't want to go looking up ancient history. As a general rule we should not expect others to exactly follow the instructions we give them regarding what to speak on and it is discourteous to try to press them to do so. (See also.) This isn't to say that it is always necessarily inappropriate for you to so but it does mean that the nature of the interaction moves from being a request to a coercion via the manipulation of perceptions within the social environment. Your expectation of getting an answer should move from being based on expectations of goodwill toward how effectively you can apply social force in the context.
As for the reasons I didn't directly respond with a link or detailed description:
By way of elaboration of the final point and also in answer to the question you have been asking, I refer to a case where you made false, highly personal and significant accusations regarding my nature and motives and backed it up by taking unrelated expressions of mine completely out of context, complete with links. A (yes) 'flagrant' and unacceptable attempt to do reputation damage against a target - a violation that both includes and exceeds that of mere 'tone'. This is was prompted by a disagreement with you regarding your post saying that lesswrong is biased because we didn't support a post by a (high status) outsider making, if I recall, claims about how clearly guilty Amanda Knox was.
I have commented on how ironic it is that of all the hundreds of social attacks I've endured on lesswrong - from vulgar name calling through denigration of my intellect or 'rationality' and even somehow to 'fanboy' - the most vicious and memorable attack has been by Wei_Dai, a user who is usually well be behaved and is universally respected. 'Universally respected' includes my own respect for the intellectual contributions you have made via object level posts.
The above is my best attempt to answer the question directly and is approximately what I had mentally rehearsed prior to the negative incentives prompting me to abort the reply. I don't expect you agree with my evaluation. I don't expect you like hearing it. While my decision to not directly answer the question (until now) was not based on how it effects you, do you really think it would have been better for me to say the above than to dodge with "we probably think different things are ok"?
ETA: Just saw Tyrrell's sibling comment, and I guess this whole incident could be explained by the fact that I think the norm suggested by Tyrrell already exists whereas you don't. Can you confirm that's what's going on?
Maybe somewhat. I accept a norm that all else being equal answering people's questions is desirable. A significant issue is that to the extent that Tyrrell's norm exists it is negatively enforced. By which I mean effective punishment of 'norm violaters', assuming said norm, has a sign bit that points in the wrong direction.
If people punish you for what they would advocate as 'the right thing to do' then don't do it.
do you really think it would have been better for me to say the above than to dodge with "we probably think different things are ok"?
Yes, in part because I thought there was a non-negligible chance that I had done something really bad and then blocked the memory of it. (I mentioned this fear in my first reply to you.) So I really do appreciate the time and effort you took to clearly explain everything (or at least your perspective of it, which is all I can ask for). Of course, as you suspected, I disagree about your interpretation of the event...
I'm worried that LW doesn't have enough good contrarians and skeptics, people who disagree with us or like to find fault in every idea they see, but do so in a way that is often right and can change our minds when they are. I fear that when contrarians/skeptics join us but aren't "good enough", we tend to drive them away instead of improving them.
For example, I know a couple of people who occasionally had interesting ideas that were contrary to the local LW consensus, but were (or appeared to be) too confident in their ideas, both good and bad. Both people ended up being repeatedly downvoted and left our community a few months after they arrived. This must have happened more often than I have noticed (partly evidenced by the large number of comments/posts now marked as written by [deleted], sometimes with whole threads written entirely by deleted accounts). I feel that this is a waste that we should try to prevent (or at least think about how we might). So here are some ideas: