AlexU comments on Well-Kept Gardens Die By Pacifism - Less Wrong

104 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 21 April 2009 02:44AM

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Comment author: Annoyance 21 April 2009 02:31:35PM 2 points [-]

"To categorically exclude an entire class of people -- some of whom are very good rationalists and thinkers -"

But that's the point. No one who belongs to that class is a good rationalist. I'm sure there are people who belong to that class who in limited contexts are good rationalists, but speaking globally, one cannot be a rationalist of any quality and exempt some assertion from the standards of rationality.

This isn't about the perfect being the enemy of the good. It's about minimum standards, consistency, and systematic honesty.

If you possess evidence that shows theism to be rationally justifiable, present it.

Comment author: AlexU 21 April 2009 03:04:56PM *  0 points [-]

Are you so confident in your perfect, unerring rationality that you'll consider that particular proposition completely settled and beyond questioning? I'm about as certain that there is no God as one can get, but that certainty is still less than 100%, as it is for virtually all things I believe or know. Part of maintaining a rational outlook toward life, I'd think, would be keeping an attitude of lingering doubt about even your most cherished and long-held beliefs.

Comment author: Technologos 21 April 2009 06:18:01PM 3 points [-]

Yes, that will always be technically true--no belief can be assigned a probability of 100%. Nevertheless, my utility calculations recognize that the expected benefit of questioning my stance on that issue is so small (because of its infinitesimal probability) that almost anything else has a higher expected value.

Why then should I question that, when there is so much else to ask?

Comment author: Nick_Tarleton 21 April 2009 04:52:22PM 1 point [-]

Are you so confident in your perfect, unerring rationality that you'll consider that particular proposition completely settled and beyond questioning?

Where are you getting the idea that Annoyance said this?