ciphergoth comments on The Sin of Underconfidence - Less Wrong

55 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 20 April 2009 06:30AM

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Comment author: ciphergoth 24 April 2009 10:56:42AM 12 points [-]

Many of WLC's arguments have this rough structure:

  • Here's a philosophical brain teaser. Doesn't it make your head spin?
  • Look, with God we can shove the problem under the carpet
  • Therefore, God.

That's why I think that in order to debate him you have to explicitly challenge the idea that God could ever be a good answer to anything; otherwise, you disappear down the rabbit hole of trying to straighten out the philosophical confusions of your audience.

Comment author: MBlume 25 April 2009 02:26:31AM 1 point [-]

"saying 'God' is an epistemic placebo -- it gives you the feeling of a solution without actually solving anything"

something like that?

Comment author: ciphergoth 25 April 2009 10:46:12AM 2 points [-]

Well, you could start with something like that, but you're going to have to set out why it doesn't solve anything. Which I think means you're going to have to make the "lady down the street is a witch; she did it" argument. Making that simple enough to fit into a debate slot is a real challenge, but it is the universal rebuke to everything WLC argues.

Comment author: pnrjulius 12 June 2012 03:32:46AM 2 points [-]

I like to put it this way: Religion is junk food. It sates the hunger of curiosity without providing the sustenance of knowledge.