Ezekiel comments on Rationality Quotes May 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Ezekiel 04 May 2012 10:52:03PM *  14 points [-]

When scientists discuss papers:
"I don't think this inference is entirely reasonable. If you're using several non-independent variables you're liable to accumulate more error than your model accounts for."
When scientists discuss grants:
"A guy who worked at the NSF once told me if we light a candle inside this jackal skull, the funders will smile upon our hopes."
"I'll get the altar!"

~ Zach Weiner, SMBC #2559

Comment author: fortyeridania 05 May 2012 12:24:48PM 6 points [-]

(1) Do people act more rationally when their interests are more directly concerned? (2) Are scientists' interests more directly concerned with winning grants than with making correct scientific inferences?

If the answer to both is "yes," then I think we should raise our confidence in jackal rituals relative to the current methodologies of statistical inference.

Comment author: khafra 07 May 2012 03:12:38PM 3 points [-]

Fortunately for jackals, there's an unjustified independence assumption here. Other stuff I've read strongly suggests that the outcomes of published research are strongly influenced by the expectations of the researchers about future grant money.

Comment author: Ezekiel 05 May 2012 05:59:52PM 1 point [-]

(1) Do people act more rationally when their interests are more directly concerned?

Hell, no. Religion (especially the more commandment-heavy ones like Islam and Orthodox Judaism) being the best example, with interpersonal relationships running a close second.

The idea of that strip, as I understand it, is that scientists pretty much only act rationally inside the lab.

Comment author: Manfred 06 May 2012 08:19:22AM -1 points [-]

I think you're reading into a joke much too strongly.