paper-machine comments on Holden's Objection 1: Friendliness is dangerous - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 18 May 2012 01:27:07AM 3 points [-]

(This is a revealing post, in that it takes the problem of values and treats it in a mathematically-precise way, and received many downvotes without any substantive objections to either the math or to the analogy asserting that the math is appropriate. I have found in other posts as well that making a mathematical argument based on an abstraction results in more downvotes than does merely arguing from a loose analogy.)

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Except Peter de Blanc's comments.

Comment author: ciphergoth 18 May 2012 06:58:45AM 2 points [-]

Now that the huffy remark has been removed, I can't see what post it used to refer to!

Comment author: PhilGoetz 18 May 2012 03:15:55AM *  1 point [-]

Peter deBlanc is a better mathematician than I am, so I'd better look at them.

ADDED. I see I responded to them before. I think they're good points but don't invalidate the model. I'll retract my huffy statement from the post, though.

Comment author: [deleted] 18 May 2012 03:31:59AM 1 point [-]

The point of his remarks, in my view, was that your model needed validation in the first place. Every mathematical biology or computational cognitive science paper I've read makes some attempt to rationalize why they are bothering to examine whatever idealized model is under consideration.

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