army1987 comments on Be careful with thought experiments - Less Wrong

6 Post author: lukeprog 18 May 2012 09:54AM

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Comment author: [deleted] 19 May 2012 08:38:08AM 0 points [-]

Yeah, if by “suffering” you mean “nociception I care about”, it sure is human-specific.

Comment author: ciphergoth 19 May 2012 11:11:33AM 1 point [-]

I'd find this more informative if you explicitly addressed my examples?

Comment author: [deleted] 19 May 2012 03:20:04PM 1 point [-]

Well, I wouldn't usually call the thing a chess computer or a self-driving car is minimizing “suffering” (though I could if I feel like using more anthropomorphizing language than usual). But I'm confused by this, because I have no problem using that word to refer to a sensation felt by a chimp, a dog, or even an insect, and I'm not sure what is that an insect has and a chess computer hasn't that causes this intuition of mine. Maybe the fact that we share a common ancestor, and our nociception capabilities are synapomorphic with each other... but then I think even non-evolutionists would agree a dog can suffer, so it must be something else.