Eugine_Nier comments on The Power of Reinforcement - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 23 June 2012 06:18:53AM 1 point [-]

Depends, the current "everyone is special, everyone deserves an A for trying" culture almost certainly overvalues positive reinforcement.

Comment author: Vaniver 23 June 2012 03:26:39PM 1 point [-]

I see a difference between 'niceness' and 'positive reinforcement'. The "everyone deserves an A for trying" approach is 'nice' but it generally isn't skillful positive reinforcement; I think a major problem with it is underestimating how much it rewards behaviors that look like trying but aren't trying.

There's also a basic value question- if you're trying to build self-esteem, it's not clear that an "A for trying" approach overvalues positive reinforcement, though if you're trying to build understanding, it clearly would be a misapplication of positive reinforcement.

Comment author: pnrjulius 05 July 2012 01:26:03AM 0 points [-]

Everyone getting an A isn't reinforcement. Reinforcement has to be conditional on something. If you give everyone who writes a long paper an A, that's reinforcing writing long papers. If you give everyone who writes a well-written paper an A, that's reinforcing well-written papers (and probably more what you want to do).

But if you just give everyone an A, that may be positive, but it simply isn't reinforcement.