David_Gerard comments on A (small) critique of total utilitarianism - Less Wrong

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Comment author: David_Gerard 27 June 2012 03:27:26PM 2 points [-]

e.g., in that case I also prefer that thousands of people suffer so that I and my friends can live lives of ease, as long as the suffering hordes are sufficiently far away.

It is arguable (in terms of revealed preferences) that first-worlders typically do prefer that. This requires a slightly non-normative meaning of "prefer", but a very useful one.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 27 June 2012 03:34:42PM *  2 points [-]

Oh, absolutely. I chose the example with that in mind.

I merely assert that "but that leads to thousands of people suffering!" is not a ridiculous moral problem for people (like me) who reveal such preferences to consider, and it's not obvious that a model that causes the problem to evaporate is one that I endorse.