wedrifid comments on A (small) critique of total utilitarianism - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 29 June 2012 07:40:10AM 2 points [-]

It may have been better if CarlShulman used a different word - perhaps 'Evil' - to represent the 'ethical injunctions' idea. That seems to better represent the whole "deliberately subvert consequentialist reasoning in certain areas due to acknowledgement of corrupted and bounded hardware". 'Weird' seems to be exactly the sort of thing Eliezer might advocate. For example "make yourself into a corpsicle" and "donate to SingInst".

Comment author: David_Gerard 29 June 2012 08:02:27AM 0 points [-]

But, of course, "weird" versus "evil" is not even broadly agreed upon.

And "weird" includes many things Eliezer advocates, but I would be very surprised if it did not include things that Eliezer most certainly would not advocate.

Comment author: wedrifid 29 June 2012 02:10:30PM 2 points [-]

And "weird" includes many things Eliezer advocates, but I would be very surprised if it did not include things that Eliezer most certainly would not advocate.

Of course it does. For example: dressing up as a penguin and beating people to death with a live fish. But that's largely irrelevant. Rejecting 'weird' as the class of things that must never be done is not the same thing as saying that all things in that class must be done. Instead, weirdness is just ignored.