CronoDAS comments on Open Thread, July 1-15, 2012 - Less Wrong
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Another thing I found:
[A]n adolescent who had smoked just one cigarette at age 11 was twice as likely to be a regular smoker at age 14 than those who had not tried a cigarette at age 11. This was true even for the kids who did not smoke again in the intervening years.
Source.
(Edited to include a bigger quote.)
How can the 14 year old be considered a 'regular smoker' when he hasn't smoked in three years?
I assume those were years in which he was 11, 12, and 13?
An implied floor(age) hadn't occured to me. I suppose that means that on average the 14 year olds in question would have 0.5 years in which to become a regular smoker. An... interesting... thing to measure. The ones that would be most likely to be smokers would then be those that are closer to 15 than 14.
That's not a very useful datapoint.
Sorry, my post kind of got messed up; the link is visible now.
I meant, first, it's about tobacco and not nicotine, and second, it's a longitudinal correlational study, not causal as your link immediately jumps to (it "creates" a vulnerability).
is not nearly enough to claim you have screened off all possible variables and now you are entitled to infer causation. (And the claim is pretty dubious in the first claim: one cigarette does all that? Even stuff like heroin doesn't guarantee addiction after the first injection!)
Going to the full text:
If there is a causal effect, I like the social suggestion:
Perfectly consistent with a 2:1 odds-ratio, fits with the elimination of the effect by mid-teens, and doesn't attribute implausible powers to tobacco.
One cigarette causes does cause permanent, observable-on-autopsy changes in rat brains...
Such as?
::did Googling::
::retracts post::