MBlume comments on Theism, Wednesday, and Not Being Adopted - Less Wrong

56 Post author: Alicorn 27 April 2009 04:49PM

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Comment author: MBlume 27 April 2009 09:18:35PM 5 points [-]

but the pill was administered you by your parents, who received one from their parents...

if the evil moves upstream to the pill-taking then all (or most) of the evil of mormonism moves upstream to Joseph Smith.

Comment author: ciphergoth 27 April 2009 09:42:29PM 3 points [-]

And of course there's no reason for it to stop there. For some reason we haven't explicitly talked about this here AFAICT, but if you're a materialist there's no hope of assigning ultimate evil to people anyway, and there's no point in trying. I'm not saying you disagree.

Comment author: MBlume 27 April 2009 09:45:15PM *  6 points [-]

I don't know by what words to call it, but there is something that to me differentiates the moral qualities of Joseph Smith teaching Mormonism to his followers, and Wednesday's parents teaching it to her: Joseph Smith (I assign high probability) explicitly knew Mormonism to be false, and spread belief in it, knowing its likely consequences, in order to increase his own wealth, status, and opportunity for sex.

Comment author: steven0461 27 April 2009 09:57:42PM 2 points [-]

That is also the case we're considering in the context of this post -- someone who has evidence that Mormonism is false, but chooses to ignore this evidence for personal gain, and spreads belief in Mormonism by first spreading it in herself.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 27 April 2009 10:31:43PM *  1 point [-]

From one perspective, assuming that spreading lies for profit is actually wrong, that most people would see it on reflection as a less preferable option, and assuming that JS wasn't a mutant, he was mistaken about whether he improved his life by doing so.

Comment author: MBlume 27 April 2009 10:33:53PM 1 point [-]

fixed =)