Eugine_Nier comments on [Link] The perils of “reason” - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 14 August 2012 01:12:29AM 3 points [-]

as if he practically identifies reason with "everything people call such".

So you're asserting that there are two kinds of people, those that call reason "reason", and those that mistakenly call something else "reason". Keep in mind that people in the second category believe that they belong to the first. So how do you know you don't belong to the second category?

Comment author: prase 14 August 2012 05:01:44PM 1 point [-]

I am asserting that different people attach the label "reason" to different concepts, nothing else. I certainly don't assert existence of two categories; if you push me hard to categorise, I would rather admit 6 billion categories as no two people would probably completely agree on definition of "reason". I have said nothing about myself being right in the use of "reason" and others being "mistaken".

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 14 August 2012 08:02:50PM 0 points [-]

I am asserting that different people attach the label "reason" to different concepts,

And implicitly sorting those concepts into two categories, those that are suspect and those that aren't.

Comment author: prase 14 August 2012 08:30:38PM 1 point [-]

Is there a way how to formulate the idea that different people may use "reason" differently which would not appear to you as implicit sorting of those interpretations into two categories, suspect and non-suspect? Note that although I have used the word "suspect", it was in a paraphrase of Khan's position, not referring to the interpretations of "reason".

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 15 August 2012 07:33:02PM 0 points [-]

Is there a way how to formulate the idea that different people may use "reason" differently which would not appear to you as implicit sorting of those interpretations into two categories, suspect and non-suspect?

Only if you're willing to deny the existence of an objective reality.