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Comment author: [deleted] 13 September 2012 03:45:33PM *  8 points [-]

I'm pretty sure greater gender equality in a society translates into women who are less likely to say they look for status in mates. To a certain extent it seems plausible that it influences behaviour, I'm very sceptical of the implied argument that "high status in men" ceases to be a key sexy trait if you just have the right culture though.

The participants were asked in their native language whether certain criteria (such as ‘financial prospect’ and ‘being a good cook’) were important in choosing a mate.

Did they put "is well liked by other women" or "someone who my friends consider cool" on that list?

Comment author: Blackened 18 September 2012 08:24:25PM 2 points [-]

Sexuality is a strange thing. If you consciously think something is sexy, it then becomes sexy for you. At least that's how it works for me, I'm generalizing from one example here.

Comment author: [deleted] 19 September 2012 06:08:24AM 2 points [-]

In our society the consensus seems to be it doesn't quite work like that, at least when it comes to things like say homosexuality.

Comment author: Blackened 19 September 2012 08:42:56PM 1 point [-]

I didn't say that sexuality is entirely shaped by this, only that it's influenced. Say, when I read that hourglass-shaped women bodies are supposed to be attractive, I started noticing that I think I'm attracted to that, although one can argue that I used to be before I read it, so I only started noticing that. However, it worked for me for other things, many of which are not liked by many people.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 13 September 2012 04:59:32PM 2 points [-]

I don't know, but that last would just reflect the consensus, no matter what it was.

It might be worthwhile to ask men from the various countries what women seemed to be looking for.

Comment author: [deleted] 13 September 2012 06:28:51PM *  2 points [-]

It might be worthwhile to ask men from the various countries what women seemed to be looking for.

I'm not sure this would produce good results. That we have the phrase "he got lucky" indicates men may be clueless about what women want. A better result would be gained data mining online behaviour in response to flirting on say Facebook.

Computational sociology ftw.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 13 September 2012 06:36:02PM 1 point [-]

"Might be useful" is a weak claim. I was thinking that if men say "women want men with money" in the gender disparity countries and they say "women want good-looking men" in the gender equal countries, it would be confirmatory evidence. Likewise, it might be of interest if men of different ages in the same country have different views of what women want.

There are certainly plenty of men who are convinced they know what women want on the average, if not in particular cases. I wonder how much they're subject to availability bias.