faul_sname comments on The Yudkowsky Ambition Scale - Less Wrong

38 Post author: loup-vaillant 12 September 2012 03:08PM

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Comment author: faul_sname 12 September 2012 06:34:42PM 0 points [-]

10 (hacking the physics of the universe), 11 (hacking the source of the computational power running the universe, if applicable), or 12 (gaining access to literally infinite computing power i.e. becoming a god) seem to be the highest you can go. How would you propose getting past 12?

Comment author: shminux 12 September 2012 06:51:53PM *  1 point [-]

Easy, create (and destroy for fun) your own universes and meta-universes, complete with their own demiurges who think that they are gods.

Comment author: [deleted] 12 September 2012 07:57:17PM *  7 points [-]

I think I'm losing track of what 'ambition' is supposed to mean at this level.

Comment author: Manfred 12 September 2012 08:05:43PM 3 points [-]

Both can be simulated with infinite computing power.

Comment author: shminux 12 September 2012 09:11:03PM 1 point [-]

Probably not with countably infinite, though.

Comment author: Manfred 12 September 2012 11:26:47PM 0 points [-]

True. And I guess picking out anything interesting in a created universe is an extra problem, though one you should be capable of solving at level 9 :P

Comment author: faul_sname 12 September 2012 07:28:20PM *  2 points [-]

Ok, 13 or 14... Okay, I can sort of see how you might get to 100, given a few billion years to think of ideas.

Comment author: aaronde 12 September 2012 10:47:57PM *  1 point [-]

Duh. You'd have to go beyond computing! Disprove the Church-Turing thesis by building an information processor more powerful than a Turing machine.

Comment author: Armok_GoB 12 September 2012 09:08:55PM 0 points [-]

well, there's hypercomputations of various sorts, reaching and preventing bad things in specific/all other universes, changing math itself, etc.