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Comment author: wedrifid 09 October 2012 06:28:04PM 1 point [-]

But you seem to be suggesting that patriotism is true if my country is good and false otherwise. Which suggests to me that we aren't using the word "patriotism" the same way.

It looks more like you aren't using the word true the same way.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 09 October 2012 06:59:24PM 0 points [-]

Perhaps?
I'm content to accept that ""X is patriotic" entails "X believes X's country is good"" => "X's patriotism is true only if X's country is good". This is admittedly an extended sense of "true", to mean something like "does not entail falsehoods," but I'm willing to work with it.

Comment author: wedrifid 09 October 2012 07:08:43PM *  0 points [-]

I'm content to accept that ""X is patriotic" entails "X believes X's country is good"" => "X's patriotism is true only if X's country is good".

I would accept those, or at least continue the conversation without commenting, although I'd squirm rather a lot at the final one. What I couldn't accept is "patriotism is true".

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