thomblake comments on Framing Consciousness - Less Wrong

-8 Post author: cousin_it 08 May 2009 10:27AM

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Comment author: thomblake 08 May 2009 02:35:25PM 1 point [-]

Well, that's not entirely true. If someone demanded a justification and your response was "It's obvious" then you've done something wrong. But in absence of such a demand, it's a perfectly fine justification. You have to start from somewhere.

Comment author: MrHen 08 May 2009 02:41:25PM *  0 points [-]

You have to start from somewhere.

Somewhere is not "It's obvious!" 2 + 2 = 4 is not obvious. It is a definition. (Edit) Yeah, uh, theorem.

But I see and agree with your point. I am merely arguing semantics now, which is not particularly useful.

I do stand by my original claim, however, that justification usually requires more than "It's obvious!"

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 08 May 2009 05:26:30PM *  3 points [-]

2 + 2 = 4 is not obvious. It is a definition.

Strictly speaking, it is a theorem (obvious one). 4=3+1 is a definition.