MileyCyrus comments on Teaching English in Shanghai - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ShanghaiTEFLer 02 November 2012 10:37:10PM 5 points [-]

Most people who speak good to great English, really. Most shops, barss and restaurants with staff who speak good English. The pressure to learn Chinese is substantially lower than elsewhere. You will not have the benefit of anything resembling total immersion.

Comment author: fortyeridania 03 November 2012 04:47:35AM 5 points [-]

Moreover, the local dialect differs from standard Mandarin, in case that interferes with your language goals.

Comment author: ShanghaiTEFLer 03 November 2012 06:45:16AM 6 points [-]

True. Shanghainese/Wu is at least as different from Mandarin as French is from Spanish. But the majority of Shanghai residents are first or second generation immigrants. More or less everyone under the age of 40 speaks Mandarin to one extent or another.

Comment author: Emile 03 November 2012 01:37:16PM 0 points [-]

Yep, and the state has been pushing pretty heavily for linguistic uniformization (though there are still TV stations in regional dialects).

Shanghaiese will still speak dialect between themselves, so I can't eavesdrop on what they're saying nearly as easily as I can on people in Beijing (or two Chinese from different provinces talking together), and you won't pick up the language as easily by hearing what people around you are saying.

Comment author: aelephant 04 November 2012 01:01:38AM 0 points [-]

I went to Beijing for a week on a business trip & I really appreciated this aspect. Shanghainese can be beautiful, but the majority of the people I hear speaking it are nasty old women yelling at eachother on the streets.