Douglas_Knight comments on Less Wrong Parents - Less Wrong

11 Post author: saliency 03 November 2012 04:59AM

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Comment author: Douglas_Knight 03 November 2012 01:59:55PM 1 point [-]

Is this from real data?

Shminux gave a citation. What more do you want?
downvoted.

Comment author: DaFranker 04 November 2012 03:30:11AM *  4 points [-]

Book =/= data.

Descriptions of the book mention only "insights" and "clear thinking", so I'm assuming that the author didn't exactly go out and present charts, graphs and reports from careful studies, experiments and analyses. If my assumption that the book is merely "good thinking" rather than actual experimental results and observations is wrong, then my model needs some updates.

I was trying to clarify and differentiate between "Some cool guy wrote a book, some LW user believes what it says" and "A researcher presented experimental results, explained the most logical cause and effect for these results, and a LW user affirms that this is not cherry-picked or biased". I hope that makes it a bit more clear why I asked that question.

Comment author: MixedNuts 04 November 2012 02:53:22PM 5 points [-]

Books are such a ridiculous concept.

Someone tells you they know something, or they tell you something and that they can prove it. You click the link to know more, and instead of being told straight away you're supposed to spend money. You then receive a standardized-length text, containing scattered bits of the information you wanted, lots of waffling, padding, anecdotes and forewords, and rarely any raw data dumps.

In the reasonable case, it's also in a rather inconvenient format; text is still text, but there is no easy way of extracting data. The format contains DRM that, if you were to leave them in place, would enable a third-party company to revoke your access anytime they want, and prevent you from redistributing it. The latter is actually illegal, though it's one of those obscure never enforced laws like "don't fish in your pajamas".

In the preposterous case, it's a bunch of squiggles on organic matter. The organic lump must be physically schlepped to you, which can take days or weeks. It will then clutter your house, and is surprisingly heavy for its volume. Of course, it has no searching or exporting methods.

What's next, going to Mount Sinai and waiting for research papers on marble tablets?

Comment author: Emile 04 November 2012 10:18:12AM 2 points [-]

The Nurture Assumption has more summaries of existing research (and criticism of insufficiently rigorous analysis), my edition has 32 pages of references.