Epiphany comments on Poll - Is endless September a threat to LW and what should be done? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Epiphany 12 February 2013 08:47:23PM *  0 points [-]

To the extent that IQ tests are reliable, my IQ is actually measured to be 170 (no re-takes or prior training). (Just supplying information here; please don't construe this as an act of defensiveness.)

Well that was unexpected. I'm open-minded enough to consider that this is possibly the case.

FYI: Claims like this are likely to trigger a fit of "overconfident pessimism" (referring to Luke's article) in some of the members. IQ appears to be a consistent pessimism trigger.

Was your intent to insult me? No, but I am sorry that you feel that way. I can be socially inept.

Admitting that is big of you. Thanks for that. My subjective faith in humanity indicator has been incremented a tick in the upward direction.

I see you're new, so I'll inform you: There are a lot of people like us here, meaning, people who know better than to game an IQ test and then delude themselves with the "results".

I won't say there are no status games, but that you will find a lot of people that frown on them as much as you appear to in your last comment. I don't even believe in status.

It's really hard to leave the outside world outside. I keep perceiving irrational B.S. everywhere, even though I've been participating here since August. Not going to say that there's no irrational B.S. here or that I haven't adjusted at all but that my perceptions still haven't entirely adjusted.

It appears that you may have a similar issue of perceiving B.S. in comments where no such B.S. exists.

It's best to be aware of such a tendency if you have it, as this kind of response is, for obvious reasons, kind of alienating to others. Not blaming you for it (I have the same problem). Just trying to help.

Now that we've established that there was a misunderstanding here, would you like to start over by choosing and clarifying a point you want to make, or telling me that you've reinterpreted things? That would tie up this loose end of a conversation.

Out of curiosity, do you feel significantly different from those in the IQ 130 range?

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 13 February 2013 01:45:45PM 1 point [-]

I'm open-minded enough to consider that this is possibly the case.

This sounds like identity-driven reasoning. (Antipattern: "Do I accept the claim X? I'm open-minded. Open-minded people would accept X. Therefore I accept X.") The conclusions you draw about something should be given by your understanding of that thing, not by your identity.