buybuydandavis comments on Science, Engineering, and Uncoolness; Here and Now, Then and There - Less Wrong

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Comment author: buybuydandavis 09 December 2012 05:26:28AM 3 points [-]

Science and Coolness attract different types of minds, IMO. Science attracts those moved by epistemic truth, Coolness attracts those moved by social truth.

Comment author: beoShaffer 09 December 2012 07:52:48PM 4 points [-]

So, more or less why Paul Graham says nerds are unpopular.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 09 December 2012 10:38:42PM 1 point [-]

It's similar, although I'm also making a point about epistemic truth versus instrumental truth (and in this case, socially instrumental truths.)

Comment author: gjm 09 December 2012 10:22:33AM 1 point [-]

What do you mean by "social truth" and why is it a kind of truth?

Comment author: buybuydandavis 09 December 2012 10:48:53PM 2 points [-]

I mean a socially useful belief. I think it's reasonable usage to call reliably useful beliefs "true". Maybe some here would want to call them socially winning beliefs, but I think that insistence tends only to come from those who privilege and prefer epistemic truths.

Comment author: gjm 09 December 2012 11:25:19PM 0 points [-]

Eww, pragmatism.

Personally, I prefer a notion of truth that is closed under valid logical deductions, and is objective rather than subjective. You're welcome to use the word "truth" however you like, I guess.

Comment author: [deleted] 09 December 2012 03:26:37PM 1 point [-]