Eugine_Nier comments on Notes on Autonomous Cars - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Kawoomba 24 January 2013 01:23:16PM 1 point [-]

Obviously, this is quite cultural.

Yes of course. (Unfortunately, ) the benchmark culture inhibiting or furthering progress on such trends still seems to be the United States, where due to the distances involved, and the typically abysmal public transportation system, personal mobility by car is usually a central component of everyday life. It is in principle possible for such progress to emerge in, say, Japan, as it did in the mobile communications market. However, such progress has typically been insular. To truly make the jump to the "mainstream", the canary in the coal mine has historically been the US.

I don't have a license myself

But ... but ... how do you drive your Lamborghini?

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 25 January 2013 02:57:17AM 1 point [-]

To truly make the jump to the "mainstream", the canary in the coal mine has historically been the US.

Given the recent history of technological innovation, WTF are you talking about?

Comment author: Kawoomba 25 January 2013 05:49:09AM 1 point [-]

There are counterexamples (e.g. renewable energy), but from the internet itself to MS, Intel, Google, FB, Sun, Cisco, IBM, the market and the market innovators (if not the manufacturing) were centered on the United States. Look at where those autonomous cars are developed, and by whom.

What are you thinking of that makes you so incredulous?

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 25 January 2013 06:30:50AM 1 point [-]

From the context in the grandparent it seemed like you were arguing against the notion that the US is the early adapter.

Comment author: Kawoomba 25 January 2013 06:32:01AM 1 point [-]

Sorry if I was unclear.

Comment author: ChristianKl 31 January 2013 09:16:06PM 0 points [-]

Look at where those autonomous cars are developed, and by whom.

In Germany BMV and Audi develop autonomous cars. In Japan Toyota develops them. The US carmakers don't but Google does develop them.

The US is probably one of the countries where the price you have to pay when your car accidently crashes a pedestrian is highest. If you want to bring a new techonlogy to market that's likely to kill people by accident the US might be the worst place.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 02 February 2013 05:18:52AM 1 point [-]

In Germany BMV and Audi develop autonomous cars. In Japan Toyota develops them. The US carmakers don't but Google does develop them.

I think this has more to do with the fact that US automakers have major financial problems and thus can't afford to spend large amounts of money on speculative research.