You claim that I privilege my hypothesis, while your own hypotheses as originally stated were: 1) overdraft charges are scaring the poor away, 1a) maybe US poor are more "feckless", 2) maybe US poor have less cash flow due to welfare being less cash-based, 3) maybe US poor prefer to use cash... and then you claim that Fed St. Louis supports you in that paragraph? Really? It mentions none of those things except insofar as one of the aspects of "negative prior experience" is overdraft charges (and by a very generous reading it could perhaps be argued that the "paycheck to paycheck" bit is somewhat similar to what you said). In fact, I went out of my way to search for "overdraft" specifically, as that was your primary hypothesis, and I found that fears of overdraft protection come up in surveys as minor factors for not having a bank account, and as fairly major factors among those who prefer prepaid cards to debit cards (which I mentioned).
In addition, I would appreciate it if in the future you would not assume that someone is being willfully dishonest unless you are absolutely certain of it. Having reread my previous post and re-skimmed the sources I cite, I do not see where I misrepresented them. Although I obviously did not write everything each of them said (and indeed I also read three or four other things I did not link at all), I believe my post is broadly in alignment with their intent.
Regardless, I find I have no interest in further discussing this topic with you, so this will be my last post.
Regardless, I find I have no interest in further discussing this topic with you, so this will be my last post.
I have never had any interest in discussing this with you. I did so merely as a courtesy for someone who seemed to have an interest.
Having read through all this material, my general feeling is: the near-term future (1 decade) for autonomous cars is not that great. What's been accomplished, legally speaking, is great but more limited than most people appreciate. And there are many serious problems with penetrating the elaborate ingrown rent-seeking tangle of law & politics & insurance. I expect the mid-future (+2 decades) to look more like autonomous cars completely taking over many odd niches and applications where the user can afford to ignore those issues (eg. on private land or in warehouses or factories), with highways and regular roads continuing to see many human drivers with some level of automated assistance. However, none of these problems seem fatal and all of them seem amenable to gradual accommodation and pressure, so I am now more confident that in the long run we will see autonomous cars become the norm and human driving ever more niche (and possibly lower-class). On none of these am I sure how to formulate a precise prediction, though, since I expect lots of boundary-crossing and tertium quids. We'll see.
0.1 Self-driving cars
The first success inaugurating the modern era can be considered the 2005 DARPA Grand Challenge where multiple vehicles completed the course. The first legislation of any kind addressing autonomous cars was Nevada’s 2011 approval. 5 states have passed legislation dealing with autonomous cars.
However, these laws are highly preliminary and all the analyses I can find agree that they punt on the real legal issues of liability; they permit relatively little.
0.1.1 Lobbying, Liability, and Insurance
(Warning: legal analysis quoted at length in some excerpts.)
“Toward Robotic Cars”, Thrun 2010 (pre-Google):
“Google Cars Drive Themselves, in Traffic” (PDF), NYT 2010:
“Calif. Greenlights Self-Driving Cars, But Legal Kinks Linger”:
“Google’s Driverless Car Draws Political Power: Internet Giant Hones Its Lobbying Skills in State Capitols; Giving Test Drives to Lawmakers”, WSJ, 12 October 2012:
“Driverless cars are on the way. Here’s how not to regulate them.”
“How autonomous vehicle policy in California and Nevada addresses technological and non-technological liabilities”, Pinto 2012:
“Can I See Your License, Registration and C.P.U.?”, Tyler Cowen; see also his “What do the laws against driverless cars look like?”:
Ryan Calo of the CIS argues essentially that no specific law bans autonomous cars and the threat of the human-centric laws & regulations is overblown. (See the later Russian incident.)
“SCU conference on legal issues of robocars”, Brad Templeton:
“Definition of necessary vehicle and infrastructure systems for Automated Driving”, European Commission report 29 June 2011:
“Automotive Autonomy: Self-driving cars are inching closer to the assembly line, thanks to promising new projects from Google and the European Union”, Wright 2011:
“The future of driving, Part III: hack my ride”, Lee 2008:
http://www.917wy.com/topicpie/2008/11/future-of-driving-part-3/2
http://www.917wy.com/topicpie/2008/11/future-of-driving-part-3/3
http://www.917wy.com/topicpie/2008/11/future-of-driving-part-3/4
http://www.pickar.caltech.edu/e103/Final%20Exams/Autonomous%20Vehicles%20for%20Personal%20Transport.pdf [shades of Amara’s law: we always overestimate in the short run & underestimate in the long run]
The RAND report: “Liability and Regulation of Autonomous Vehicle Technologies”, Kalra et al 2009:
“New Technology - Old Law: Autonomous Vehicles and California’s Insurance Framework”, Peterson 2012:
“‘Look Ma, No Hands!’: Wrinkles and Wrecks in the Age of Autonomous Vehicles”, Garza 2012
“Self-driving cars can navigate the road, but can they navigate the law? Google’s lobbying hard for its self-driving technology, but some features may never be legal”, The Verge 14 December 2012
“Automated Vehicles are Probably Legal in the United States”, Bryant Walker Smith 2012
And people say lawyers have no sense of humor.