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Comment author: TheOtherDave 14 May 2013 07:33:19PM 1 point [-]

Are you saying it's more rational not ever to consider some ways of thinking? (I'm pretty sure I'm not completely confused about what it means to be a rationalist.)

What does it mean to be a rationalist?

Comment author: [deleted] 14 May 2013 09:08:07PM 0 points [-]

I suppose what Estarlio and I are actually referring to (as in "a community that defines itself as rationalist") is "good epistemic hygiene."

Comment author: TheOtherDave 14 May 2013 09:13:49PM 1 point [-]

Given your earlier claims about how the meaning of reliably evaluating evidence depends on your paradigm, I have no confidence that you and I share an understanding of what "good epistemic hygiene" means either, so that doesn't really help me understand what you're saying.

Can you give me some representative concrete examples of good epistemic hygiene, on your account?

Comment author: [deleted] 14 May 2013 09:32:25PM 1 point [-]

Articles like this one, obviously.

Or carefully evaluating both sides of an issue, for instance. Even if it's not specifically a LW thing it's considered essential for good judgment in the larger academic community.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 18 September 2013 11:51:20AM *  6 points [-]

carefully evaluating both sides of an issue

Are we ever allowed to say "okay, we have evaluated this issue thoroughly, and this is our conclusion; let's end this debate for now"? Are we allowed to do it even if some other people disagree with the conclusion? Or do we have to continue the debate forever (of course, unless we reach the one very specific predetermined answer)?

Sometimes we probably should doubt even whether 2+2=4. But not all the time! Not even once in a month. Once or twice in a (pre-Singularity) lifetime is probably more than necessary. -- Well, it's very similar for the religion.

There are thousands of issues worth thinking about. Why waste the limited resources on this specific topic? Why not something useful... such as curing the cancer, or even how to invent a better mousetrap?

Most of us have evaluated the both sides of this issue. Some of us did it for years. We did it. It's done. It's over. -- Of course, unless there is something really new and really unexpected and really convincing... but so far, there isn't anything. Why debate it forever? Just because some other people are obsessed?

Comment author: TheOtherDave 18 September 2013 03:34:50PM 4 points [-]

So, I basically agree with you, but I choose to point out the irony of this as a response to a thread gone quiet for months.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 18 September 2013 05:40:33PM 1 point [-]

LOL

I guess instead of the purple boxes of unread comments, we should have two colors for unread new comments and unread old comments. (Or I should learn to look at the dates, but that seems less effective.)

Comment author: TheOtherDave 18 September 2013 06:06:07PM 1 point [-]

(blinks)
Oh, is THAT what those purple boxes are!?!
* learns a thing *

Comment author: [deleted] 18 September 2013 06:27:42PM 0 points [-]

Wait, what purple boxes? Am I missing something?

Comment author: TheOtherDave 18 September 2013 06:46:57PM *  1 point [-]

As I respond to this, your comment is outlined in a wide purple border. When I submit this response, I expect that your comment will no longer be outlined, but my comment will. If I refresh the screen, I expect neither of ours will.

This has been true since I started reading LW again recently, and I have mostly been paying no attention to it, figuring it was some kind of "current selection" indicator that wasn't working very well. But if it's an "unread comment" indicator, then it works a lot better.

Edit - I was close. When I submit, your comment is still purple, and mine isn't. If I refresh once, yours isn't and mine is. If I refresh again, neither is.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 14 May 2013 11:30:10PM 0 points [-]

OK. Thanks for answering my question.