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Comment author: Lumifer 13 November 2013 05:20:36PM 2 points [-]

I must add that not all political discussion is a mud-flinging match between the Cyans and the Magentas.

For example, the Public Choice theory is a bona fide intellectual topic, but it's also clearly political.

I would also argue that knowing things like the scope of NSA surveillance is actually useful.

Comment author: Vaniver 13 November 2013 05:29:16PM *  1 point [-]

Cyans and the Magentas

I'm curious why you'd divert from the historically compelling example of the Blues and the Greens.

For example, the Public Choice theory is a bona fide intellectual topic, but it's also clearly political.

It's about politics, but the methodology is not political. The part of politics that's generally fun for people is putting forth an impassioned defense of some idea or policy. That's generally not useful on LessWrong unless it's about a site policy- and even then, the passion probably doesn't help.

I would also argue that knowing things like the scope of NSA surveillance is actually useful.

Sure.

Comment author: Lumifer 13 November 2013 05:47:22PM 3 points [-]

I'm curious why you'd divert from the historically compelling example of the Blues and the Greens.

I strongly associate the Greens with, well, the Greens -- a set of political parties in Europe and the whole environmentalist movement.

Blue is a politically-associated color in the US as well.

The part of politics that's generally fun for people is putting forth an impassioned defense of some idea or policy.

True, but LW is VERY unrepresentative sample :-) and maybe we could do a bit better. You're right in that discussing the "pros and cons" of ideological positions is not a good idea, but putting "Warning: mindkill" signs around a huge area of reality and saying "we just don't go there" doesn't look appealing either.