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Comment author: westward 18 May 2013 01:14:24AM 6 points [-]

Has anyone tried e-cigarettes as a method to quit smoking or at least ameliorate the effects of smoking?

I smoke about a pack or two a week (3 a day minimum, sometimes binging once a week) and would like to reduce that in order to increase my chances of living longer. Anyone have experience they can share?

Comment author: J_Taylor 18 May 2013 02:15:00AM 10 points [-]

After buying an e-cig, I never bought another pack of cigarettes. It has been roughly six weeks, I think. My consumption was slightly higher than yours.

Comment author: Username 18 May 2013 07:01:30PM 8 points [-]

Congratulations, by the way. You have successfully added years to your life, ceased to constantly stink, saved a lot of money, and retained the mental edge and social benefits of smoking nicotine. Instrumental rationality at its finest.

Comment author: J_Taylor 24 May 2013 01:51:22AM 1 point [-]

Thank you.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 20 May 2013 10:16:32PM *  3 points [-]

I bought my roommate an ecig and he hasn't gone back after ~6 weeks.

Feel free to profit off the hours of research I did, this is what I bought: http://www.chinabuye.com/ego-t-travel-pack-metal-box-450mah-quit-smoking-usb-rechargeable-electronic-cigarette-e-cig-black-1

extra batt: http://www.chinabuye.com/450mah-capacity-ego-ce4s-battery-for-electronic-cigarette-black

The US distributors just slap their badge on these and double the price. you'll need extra clearomizers (or one of the other cartridge types) + ejuice, but that is up to personal preference.

Comment author: Zaine 19 May 2013 11:40:16PM 1 point [-]

Have you tried making yourself throw up immediately after (or even better, while) smoking?

Comment author: westward 20 May 2013 01:15:04AM 4 points [-]

No, and if my experiences with drinking alcohol are any indication, it wouldn't have an effect on cessation.

Comment author: knb 20 May 2013 02:04:56AM *  1 point [-]

I know a group of four people who all used to smoke, then opened up an e-cigarette shop and quit smoking. They are all addicted to e-cigs now, but that's a big improvement over where they were.

Comment author: FiftyTwo 19 May 2013 10:19:08PM 1 point [-]

I've used them and liked the, but I never used normal cigarettes so don't know how the experience compares.

Comment author: J_Taylor 15 August 2013 02:21:48AM 0 points [-]

If this evidence is of interest to you, I still have not bought any more packs since converting to electronic cigarettes. If you have not yet converted, I would highly recommend doing so. If you are interested, I will message you my apparatus and places to purchase it at.

Comment author: gwern 02 June 2013 02:05:29AM 0 points [-]

Has anyone tried e-cigarettes as a method to quit smoking or at least ameliorate the effects of smoking?

Yes: http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%28%22e-cigarette%22+OR+%22electronic+cigarette%22+OR+%22electronic+nicotine%22+OR+%22personal+vaporizer%22%29+quitting+smoking

Comment author: scaphandre 02 June 2013 01:41:40AM *  0 points [-]

Rather than an e-cig, I currently occasionally use a portable vaporiser, into which I place hand-rolling tobacco.

It raises the raw tobacco to around 250*C, so nicotine is carried in gas and can be inhaled. Nothing is combusted. It's slightly larger than a AA battery and it looks like this.

This gives more nicotine hit, much less lung cancer than smoking and uses cheaper consumable materials than e-cig (you can buy hand-rolling tobacco everywhere, need less than depleting possibly-expensive e-cig cartridges).

It is also likely that this vaporising gives more MAOI hit than e-cig, contributing to both the high and addictive properties. Wiki link

Subjectively, I enjoy this more than than a e-cig. I have actively promoted the use to this device to friends to try to get them off cigarettes.