loup-vaillant comments on Optimizing for attractiveness - Less Wrong

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Comment author: loup-vaillant 01 June 2013 10:21:40AM 1 point [-]

(Yep, I'm loup-vaillant on HN too)

Thank you, I'll think about it. Though for now, seriously considering moving to the US tends to trigger my Ugh shields. I'm quite scared.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 04 June 2013 04:14:56AM 0 points [-]

Though for now, seriously considering moving to the US tends to trigger my Ugh shields. I'm quite scared.

Don't feel bad, according to my models, that's how most people would react (I've tried to train myself out of this sort reaction with some success mainly because I used to be really interested in starting companies, which requires this sort of audacious determination). You don't have to make a decision now. If I were you, I'd just let it be an option in the back of your mind for the time being until you get comfortable enough to think calmly about it.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 02 June 2013 09:18:40AM 0 points [-]

Scared of?

Comment author: loup-vaillant 02 June 2013 10:17:23AM *  3 points [-]

Hmm, leaving everything and everyone behind, and a general feeling of uncertainty: what live will be like? Will I find a job? Will I enjoy my job (super-important)? How will this affect my relationship with my SO? Less critically, should I bring my Cello, or should I buy another one? What about the rest of my stuff?

We're not talking moving a couple hundred miles here. I've done it for a year and, I could see my family every 3 week-ends, and my SO twice as much. Living in Toulouse, France, I could even push to England if I had a good opportunity. But to go to the US, I have to Cross the Ocean. If I leave this summer and find a job by September, I likely won't make a single trip back before the next summer.

Also, I don't think I value money all that much. I mainly care about the sense of security it provides. If I were guaranteed half of what I currently make to work at home on the computer science research that I want to do, I would take it.

So, If I were to move to the US, it couldn't be just about the money. The job matters. And I'd better get closer to the LW-MIRI-CFAR community. And even then, I'm still not sure. Indefinitely postponing such a big decision is so easy.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 04 June 2013 04:11:23AM *  1 point [-]

Relevant HN thread. Both the SF startups I've worked for have/had free meals, flexible work hours, on-premise fun like climbing walls, table tennis, foosball, etc., egalitarian laid-back work environments, and so on. In terms of technology you're working with, I'd guess that you're probably more likely to work with something relatively newer and sexier like Hadoop, Ruby on Rails, or node.js here in SF than something like Java. I don't know what you work with in France. In terms of whether the work is interesting... well, that depends on the startup.

How will this affect my relationship with my SO?

That's a tougher one... supposedly the dating scene is relatively bad for men in SF, but I only just moved here so I don't have much firsthand experience. I don't know what your SO's visa options would be. I assume she's not a programmer? If she is, maybe she could apply for a visa too? I don't know how you guys feel about gaming the US visa system by getting married?

Less critically, should I bring my Cello, or should I buy another one? What about the rest of my stuff?

Figure out how much it's worth to you and how long you'd have to work here in order to buy equivalents for all of it or things that made you equivalently happy with your extra salary?

Also, I don't think I value money all that much. I mainly care about the sense of security it provides. If I were guaranteed half of what I currently make to work at home on the computer science research that I want to do, I would take it.

Do you have any interest in effective altruism?

Indefinitely postponing such a big decision is so easy.

Well, you can certainly postpone it until we learn what kind of immigration reform, if any, passes. Even then, I think it would only start to take effect at the start of 2014 (but I really have no clue).