Decius comments on Effective Altruism Through Advertising Vegetarianism? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 12 June 2013 08:58:39PM 10 points [-]

Since all of my work output goes to effective altruism, I can't afford any optimization of my meals that isn't about health x productivity. This does sometimes make me feel worried about what happens if the ethical hidden variables turn out unfavorably. Assuming I go on eating one meat meal per day, how much vegetarian advocacy would I have to buy in order to offset all of my annual meat consumption? If it's on the order of $20, I'd pay $30 just to be able to say I'm 50% more ethical than an actual vegetarian.

Comment author: Decius 12 June 2013 10:12:28PM 1 point [-]

Wouldn't that $30 come from your work output that is currently going to effective altruism?

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 12 June 2013 10:37:27PM 2 points [-]

Arguably worth it for $30 of reduced guilt, bragging rights and twisted, warped enjoyment of ethical weirdness.

Comment author: Decius 14 June 2013 04:31:31AM 0 points [-]

Using the worst estimate, that would mean that it's arguable that a 1 in 50 chance of killing a child under 5 is worth that much reduced guilt, bragging rights, and twisted, warped enjoyment of ethical weirdness.

I'd call you a monster, but I'd totally take actions which fail to prevent the death of an entire kid I'd never meet anyway if I could do so without suffering any risk of being blamed and could get a warped enjoyment of ethical weirdness.

We monsters.