ChrisHallquist comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 22, chapter 93 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ChrisHallquist 06 July 2013 07:28:46PM 2 points [-]

HPMOR kinda feels off because canonically, Hermione is unambiguously the most competent person in Harry's year, and has a good chance of growing up to be the most competent person in the 'verse. Harry is kept at the center of the story by his magical connection to Voldemort. In HPMOR, in contrast, Harry is kept at the center of the story by competence and drive. It's going to be very hard to do that without it feeling like Hermione is getting shafted.

That said, Hermione's death was an excellent decision from a storytelling perspective. Death is a major theme of both canon and HPMOR, but in canon Harry the most important deaths in Harry's life are those of his parents, who he had no memories of.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 07 July 2013 08:57:44AM 3 points [-]

Harry is kept at the center of the story by his magical connection to Voldemort.

Not just that-- he's also got a good bit of competence and drive, and Dumbledore's Army is a good example of canon Harry taking initiative in a way that's unusual for fictional characters but rather in the spirit of MOR.

Comment author: Kindly 07 July 2013 05:44:30PM 15 points [-]

Dumbledore's Army is a good example of canon Hermione taking the initiative, Harry just went along with the idea, if I recall correctly.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 07 July 2013 06:05:57AM 3 points [-]

Harry is kept at the center of the story by his magical connection to Voldemort. In HPMOR, in contrast, Harry is kept at the center of the story by competence and drive.

Harry's thinks his competence and drive, at least in extremis, are tied to his superhuman dark side that makes him smarter, more competent, and fearless.