TitaniumDragon comments on One Life Against the World - Less Wrong

32 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 18 May 2007 10:06PM

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Comment author: Robin_Hanson2 18 May 2007 10:20:24PM 14 points [-]

Also, whoever saves a person to live another fifty years, it is as if they had saved fifty people to live one more year. Whoever saves someone who very much enjoys life, it is as if they saved many people who are not sure they really want to live. And whoever creates a life that would not have otherwise existed, it is as if they saved someone who had an entire lifetime yet to live.

Comment author: TitaniumDragon 14 July 2013 05:10:17AM 0 points [-]

I will note that this is one of the fundamental failings of utilitarianism, the "mere addition" paradox. Basically, take a billion people who are miserable, and one million people who are very happy. If you "add up" the happiness of the billion people, they are "happier" on the whole than the million people; therefore, the billion are a better solution to use of natural resources.

The problem is that it always assumes some incorrect things:

1) It assumes all people are equal 2) It assumes that happiness is transitive 3) It assumes that you can actually quantify happiness in a meaningful way in this manner 4) It assumes the additive property for happiness - that you can add up some number of miserable people to get one happy person.

None of these assumptions are necessarily true.

Of course, all moral philosophies are going to fail at some level.

Note that, for instance, in this case there is an obvious difference: adding 50 years to one life is actually significantly better than extending 50 lives by 1 year each, as the investment to improve one person for 50 years is considerably less, and one person with 50 years can do considerably larger, longer, and grander projects.