Halfwitz comments on MIRI's 2013 Summer Matching Challenge - Less Wrong

23 Post author: lukeprog 23 July 2013 07:05PM

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Comment author: Halfwitz 26 July 2013 11:50:44PM *  13 points [-]

Just curious, whatever happened to EY's rationality books? You invested months of effort into them. Did you pull a sunk cost reversal? Or is publishing them not on the schedule till next year.

Comment author: lukeprog 27 July 2013 04:24:48AM 5 points [-]

They aren't a priority for this year. We briefly contracted with two different writers who might have been able to finish the books without pulling Eliezer away from his other priorities, but that didn't work. We're still thinking about what is best to do with the drafts.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 27 July 2013 04:46:23AM 12 points [-]

The drafts came out unexciting according to reader reports. I suspect that magical writing energy ['magic' = not understood] was diverted from the rationality book into the first 63 chapters of HPMOR which I was doing in my 'off time' while writing the book, and which does have Yudkowskian magic according to readers. HPMOR and CFAR between them used up a lot of the marginal utility I thought we would get from the book which diminishes the marginal utility of completing it.

Comment author: Halfwitz 27 July 2013 05:49:12AM *  3 points [-]

You should consider posting the drafts somewhere. At the very least, we'll get new material to add to the wiki. Wikis don't need 'magic.'

Comment author: Kawoomba 27 July 2013 06:59:39AM 3 points [-]

It's better not to publish than to publish something unpolished. "This is just a draft" wouldn't sufficiently counteract the impression of "I read something of perceived-lower quality, and it's from EY."

Publish unpolished and perish, if you will.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 27 July 2013 07:58:42AM 8 points [-]

I wasn't especially happy with the reception / effects of publishing the unpolished TDT draft.

Comment author: shminux 27 July 2013 05:38:13AM 6 points [-]

Shoulda hired Yvain to retell them :)

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 27 July 2013 10:24:25PM 24 points [-]

We tried that experiment, but Yvain was heading off to a new job and his first stab didn't seem to be a quick fix.