MugaSofer comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 25, chapter 96 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: MugaSofer 29 July 2013 07:45:25AM 3 points [-]

I have believed, ever since Q detailed how rituals work and we saw that Voldie agreed that Harry would be spared if Lily died (because seriously, she thought that would work?), that Voldemort accidentally triggered a powerful Ritual, with Lily as the sacrifice.

Hmm ... is it possible that was deliberate? It doesn't quite seem to fit ... but then, they were pretty desperate.

Comment author: HungryHippo 30 July 2013 06:44:56PM *  -1 points [-]

There are at least three plausible explanations:

  • Harry's memory is false. Harry even notes that the memory is so old it should not even be there.
  • Q lied. To his ears her plea must have sounded something like "may I please lay down my wand?".
  • Q never intended to kill Harry anyway, so he either doesn't care about any protection, or maybe even prefers for it to keep Harry safe. (Especially if Q wants Harry to rule.)

Also, Lily was clever: maybe she tried to bluff Q into relaxing his guard by feigning surrender and thus attack him at his weakest. Possibly Q, playing at a higher level, realized this and accepted her offer of "surrender" out of amusement. So either Q saw through Lily's feigned surrender or she realized that Q accepted her genuine surrender only because he thought she was trying to trick him and this triggered her into attacking him.

Comment author: MugaSofer 31 July 2013 01:47:04PM 0 points [-]

Oh, it was clearly sarcastic, from the context - but perhaps the ritual didn't care.

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